American Revolution

[lew]

I can’t stand dystopian literature, try reading a handmaids tale. That book did my head in...


lew

[Whitey]

Harry and others thanks for then info. I wasn't impressed by the Patriot movie either. Americans are just rebellious by nature, well they were anyway until 9/11. So movies like that appeal to us. Plus the reality is King George never taxed us to the point we are taxed today, and people are learning more about that, so of course when rationalism brings truth someone decides to rekindle emotional irrational thought about the whole ordeal by making a movie historically inaccurate, Gibson was playing the Swamp Fox too far north and his nemisis is an evil nazi type British Dragoon who thrust's his sword into anything and everything. Propaganda is all it is. I can see the wish for independence, but I don't think war was the way to do it at that point, the Brits I learned in Cultural Geography were actually quite leinient and tollerant of the colonist attitude.

I'm glad we are all good today besides the old days, I do wish you would have sent help to our people in the "Civil War", the South and Britian are alot alike in culture, ideals, and nationality. And so you know, I know people down south who don't celebrate July 4th, they wear black arm bands in protest. Lincoln was the father of American socialism.

As for Washington, when I was a kid him and Jean Layfayette were legends, almost saint like in school, now they aren't mentioned much at all, and Jefferson is associated not as a brilliant man today, but rather a man who had questioable relations with his slaves, and as an "Extremist".
We now concentrate on how Godly Lincoln was, how evil and ignorant Southerners are and since the charge of treason never could stick to old Jeff Davis since the constitution does not say anything about state succession they drop that charge and take up the moral emotionalism stating the war was to free the slaves, sorry, but not many white men north or south would have fought if that was the case, but like the Patriot the "Evil" spin gives an emotional feeling that the war was justified, even though Lincoln suspended congress and acted as a dictator for 4 years.

I just wanted to know how they spin your history, like the American Industrial Revolution we just "Freed" slaves and incarcerated them into another type of slavery along with women and children of every race, by forcing them to work in industrial factories in horrible conditions, yep thans "Honest Abe". And we build monuments to the guy and put his ugly mug on money.

We got ours in Vietnam, the NVA officers stidied our revolution and applied the same tactics, a small disorganized force will always exhaust the patience of a large organized force. Look at Iraq.

[Jason The Argonaut]

Like most people on here I was never taught about American Revolution. I suppose you can say I taught me self from book, programmes and the internet.

Well I must say I was not surprised to read this:-

We are taught King George was a tax collecting hustler, jailed men for speaking, destroyed the press and disallowed freedom of religion. That Washington was the second coming of Christ almost and we fought a reluctant war of freedom with a rag tag army and we won because we were good, but are the best of friends with Britan all the same. Thats what they teach us in school, in College they teach King George was alright, just the colonist's were greedy bastards.

[mikkel]

I just cant belive that in school you have to celebrate the 4th of July.

[mikkel]

In the Americian revolution on the Americian side we lost about 25 thousand how many were lost on the British side? (is olny military personell.)

[lee909]

i just left school and passed history, we studied medicine,norman conquest and the two world wars, from what i've been told about the american revolution the thing about the british burning down the whitehouse is true and also they just couldnt be bothered and left in the end, but i'd just like to say i think america is britains best ally and i wouldnt trust our european allies as far as i could throw them

[mikkel]

You are correct the past is the past the US and UK diserve eachother.

[RobT]

Made a nice change from watching The Patriot on Sky

From what i heard...the English are portrayed as baby eating church burners ...

[Smoke286]

One of the more interesting units from the American Revolutionary War is Butlers Rangers.
You can read more here:
profile.php?mode=activate&u=1771&act_key=fa9e5a

[Tazzers]

This might be interesting to you:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/programmes ... ndex.shtml

[RobT]

Did anyone catch Ray mears survival program when he went on the same route through north america as Rogers did with his rangers.

http://www.rogersrangers.org/rogers/index.html

[Tazzers]

The British (as I understand it ) did not burn down the Whitehouse during the Independance War. That happened in 1812 (I think) after the USA tried to invade Canada. It didn't work, the British chased the Americans south agian all the way to Washington and burned down the Whitehouse and some of the city itself. The warning was stark. 'You ain't too big for a good hiding, yet' then they turned around and marched back to Canada. Well they're all growd up now but I think it is both a British and a Canadian Army battle honour. The only other time was when the USMC raided southern England (I forget the date, probably 1820 or something) they were nearly all killed or captured but many were (I think) repatriated.

[dannyd]

If memory serves me correctly, it was the marines who burned the White House. as you say in 1812.

Can anyone corroborate this?

[Tazzers]

I'm not sure it could have been Army or Marines but I have read an American point of view that accused the British of simply marching into the USA on a jolly. They talk about how nasty they were and nowhere does it mention that the USA tried to invade British territory and this was what prompted the attack on Washington. Does me ed in.

[Whitey]

It was the Marines that burned it. They spared the USMC barracks out of mutual respect for the Marine brotherhood. They teach this to us in our Navy and Marine Corps.