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Military Plane Crashes In North Wales.

Posted: Tue 22 May, 2007 10:03 am
by ScottX
Could any forum members give me information (or point me in the right direction for info'), on military plane crashes on the Berwyn Mountain range in North Wales in the Bala/Corwen area I believe?

Apparently, A plane crashed somewhere on the range on 12th of February 1982 and I've heared of another in the same area in 1972.

Can anyone enlighten me please?


Posted: Wed 23 May, 2007 11:01 pm
by Fwd 5
12th Feb 1982, An RAF Harrier GR3 airframe number XZ973. A student from the OCU at Wittering on a solo nav sortie crashed into high ground 8 miles south of Corwen.
Put 'DASC' (Defence Aviation Safety Centre)into google and all the Military Air Accident Summaries are available on their website.

Incidentally, are you concerned about being abducted by aliens?
Are you wearing a tinfoil hat as you read this to prevent aliens interfering with your thoughts?


Posted: Thu 24 May, 2007 8:32 am
by ScottX
Thanks for that Fwd5.

I'm not sure about the second half of your answer though.

What has air crashes in North wales to do with aliens and abductions? I'm intrigued.

Posted: Thu 24 May, 2007 5:56 pm
by harry hackedoff
He`s referring to the Bala triangle :o


Posted: Thu 24 May, 2007 8:15 pm
by ScottX
Forgive my ignorance, but what is The Bala Triangle?

Posted: Fri 25 May, 2007 10:55 am
by Fwd 5
This accident appears to be the basis of one of those bizzare UFO conspiracy theories. Apparently the mountain was sealed off after the accident (unsurprisingly, as Harriers contain some very unhealthy carbon fibre substances) and the tinfoil hat wearers assumed that this was to conceal a crashed spaceship. Plenty of shite about it on the internet.

Plane Crashes.

Posted: Fri 25 May, 2007 5:46 pm
by ScottX
Ah I see. Thank you once again for that.

I'm on this site for a friend who does not have Internet access. He walks a lot in the hills and likes excuses to do so. He is planning to visit the Corwen area in the summer and would like to visit crash sites. A bit morbid but then it takes all sorts.

All I know is of a crash somewhere on the Berwyn range in 1982 and an earlier crash somewhere in the same area a decade earlier.

I looked up the info' you kindly supplied and saw some details of the 1982 crash where a pilot unfortunately lost his life. I could not find any reference though to a 1972 crash in that area.

Perhaps I'm naive, but I was rather hoping for a map reference or some coordinances to these two events.

You seem very knowledgeable. Would you know of precise locations?


Posted: Fri 25 May, 2007 11:16 pm
by Tab
Just look for the crowd of rubberneckers

Posted: Sat 26 May, 2007 1:12 pm
by ScottX
After 20 to 30 odd years, I should imagine such 'rubberneckers' have all but vanished!

I was rather hoping that replies on this forum might have been more helpful.

Sadly up to now, all I've had are comments which really have nothing to do with my questions and the answers sought.

Posted: Sat 26 May, 2007 3:13 pm
by Chester
ScottX wrote:Sadly up to now, all I've had are comments which really have nothing to do with my questions and the answers sought.
Scott... chill. This is just the typical sense of humour on this forum. If you want straight answers minus humour then you need to look elsewhere.

We are all friendly however :drinking:

Posted: Sun 10 Jun, 2007 1:00 am
by Stu-
Really though. Leave the pilot in peace. You and your wacky taffy mate. For f@#k sake. Its obvious what he's after. f@#k wacko.

Re: Military Plane Crashes In North Wales.

Posted: Fri 21 Aug, 2020 6:39 pm
by artskin4u
WoW, that brings back memories.
I was a lowly SAC at RAF Shawbury at the time. Was 'Volunteered' to go out to the crash site, I think with 2 others. Remember hiking up from the track into the hills where we found a large burn mark across a wide area where the Harrier had hit, it was a US Navy Airman, may he rest in peace ! It was all marked out with flags and we were told we had to stay there for 24hrs to guard and turn any sightseers/hikers away while the crash site was examined and debri removed. It was not nice, we had a small tent to stay in and were informed not to touch anything bagged up at the back of the tent. We did not !
One of my most unpleasant duties during my RAF career, but did have some really fun moments too ( Hey it was the Cold War, what do you expect! )

Re: Military Plane Crashes In North Wales.

Posted: Sun 27 Sep, 2020 9:56 am
by PistonRob

Oddly enough I was talking to a friend who mentioned this incident as you described. He was with a handful of walkers who all had connecions to the military via the Army/Air Force. My mate Dave was with the Oswestry Air Cadets at the time & had an annual social friends camp up the Berwyns for a night or two, even in poor weather . They didnt hear the crash but when walking saw the tent & a few airmen (you) guarding the area & a heli hovering around. They thought better of continuing their walking route & headed off elsewhere.
Yesterday both me & er'indoors hiked up & the Berwyns & close to where Dave described where the incident took place. Witness locations still seem to differ which is a shame. Ive done a lot of investigation over the years into historical losses & have taken relations of aircrews to where or near to where the tragic losses have taken place,, a kind of closure for them..
Incidently one of his mate lost his life when in the RAF when his Tornado GR1 crashed around 1987. I had the great honour of meeting him as a Cadet myself when he resisted our sqn but a year before his untimely loss.

Re: Military Plane Crashes In North Wales.

Posted: Sun 27 Sep, 2020 10:26 am
by artskin4u

Thanks for the reply, that was interesting, long time ago now different world.

Re: Military Plane Crashes In North Wales.

Posted: Sun 27 Sep, 2020 10:32 am
by PistonRob
Have Pmd you mate..