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hi thought id post this here. Did a PRMC in October but didnt pass ,im not totally unfit but have never been classed as a good runner. Anyway, as time has gone by Ive been looking into the RAF, more specifically the gunners. I know theres a world of difference between the Marines and RAF but I really do think after carefull consideration the the RAF would be more suitable for me. Im just not sure how to put this to my AFCO or even if the RAF would want me. I respect the marines for what they do and thats why I initially wanted to join but my heart lies elshwere im afraid.Im not looking to be a gunner because its easier-i know its not. So should i just tell me AFCO all this? Any Input from you guys would be great. thanks
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what do the gunners do that the marines don't and vise versa? i've never really read up on the gunners and their roles.
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Go for it, what's the worst they can do? Just say that the PRMC was an eye opener and you'd rather try something else. You were a good enough candidate for PRMC so why not let you go for RAF Reg? Why not ask about career options with the Army, you'll probably have a greater choice of options and greater oportunities once serving?

You have to really ask yourself whether you're changing because you want to do the job that the RAF Reg do or whether you see them as an easier option. Nothing wrong with wanting an easier option, not everyone is cut out for the Marines, but are you sure you'll be content with it and not regret not giving the Marines a proper go?
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Cheers Worthers alot of sense in that post. I was just wondering if it was frowned upon thats all, leaving one area of the millitary to move to another one. Yes the army is an option but the RAF has always been in my mind, I know I could do well. Im changing because the RAF is the job I want to do and also because the Marines I found really tough- as said before though i have a massive respect for all the lads. To be honest i never was 100% sure about the marines I always had doubts about my fitness and i was proved right, I kind of applied above my limits in regards to fitness if you understand me.
I gave the marines a shot and i dont think its for me, i dont think ill regret not attempting another PRMC.
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No disrespect to the RAF Reg but their role just appears pretty one dimensional but I really don't know that much about them. I'm sure they have some "Gucci" jobs and there are probably advantages to joining a smaller organisation like the RAF.

Why not go down to your AFCO and let the Army and RAF try and sell themselves to you.

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Just speak to them in the AFCO and be honest. I know a few blokes in the RAF Regiment and a few in the RM. I'd say there is less variety of specialisations in the regiment by comparison with the marines, but the regiment is not an easy option. 2 Squadron is tough, and there is a Regiment element to JSFSG.

Go to the AFCO and ask are there any gunners there, I know the Liverpool office used to have a couple. You're best speaking to someone who is in the job you want to do, the AFCO staff know what is in the brochures and whatever gen they can pick up from people around doing different jobs in the RAF. Have a read up about the regiment too,
http://www.raf.mod.uk/rafregiment/index.html
(also buy the RAF News theres always something about a regiment squadron somewhere in the world.

But in the AFCO just be honest with the staff, they know that RM is farkin tough and they know that after basic at Honnington the gunners are all a lot fitter and tougher than they were when they first walked into the office.

Hope this helps, good luck fella
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I experienced the same dilema only years ago. Went on one of those Potential Marine Courses, or thats what they used to call them. It was like a competetion thing between all the recruits as opposed to a minium standard as such. The RAF Regiment didn't have the same thing then but I think they do now. Although the Potential Gunners Course or whatever its called is more of an insight thing I think.

Because the Marines were well known as an elite the competetion was unbelievable. There were guys that could do more chinups than I could do situps and swim faster than I could sprint. Nobody had heard of the RAF Regiment in comparison you just did the same recruit procedure as all the other trades until it came to trade training and it was off to Catterick for Regiment training.

A couple of mates, in similar circumstances actually went on to become gunners in the Regiment. They said that failing to get into the Marines was never looked down upon at any stage of their careers. In fact nobody ever knew or could'nt care a less. But it was emphasied right from the off that they were joing the RAF to be soldiers and that the hardness of the training did reflect on that.

Although the Regiment do have some forward roles: II Para Squadron, Combat Search & Rescue, Forward Air Control Parties and Special Forces Support Group you would have to put some time in the service before you got any of that I would have thought.

Where as with the Marines there would be a reasonable chance of storming enemy beaches earlier on in your service providing you can get your green lid of course.
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My mate who's a bootneck told me that if there was one thing that the RAF Regiment would probably do the Marines on it would be running as apparently they do hell of a lot of running, I'm sure that was what that big fight between the Para's and RAF Reg was all about as well in a nightclub with the Special Forces Support Group minus the Marines were there, something got said from a Gunner about the RAF Reg being better than the Marines at running and the Para's stepped into the Marines defence, but to be honest mate I dont really know a lot about the RAF Reg as other than wanting to fly a fighter plane the RAF has never interested me! I cant see why they would hold a grudge against you though I mean you tried out to go through arguably the longest and hardest basic training in the world, and to be fair down at the Leicester AFCO they all seem pretty sound I've had a good laugh with them all in there when I've been down, not sure why they would look down on you I mean at least you still want to join the forces, better than being a waster mate! hope whatever you do goes well for you though. Ben
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i've got a mate down there at honnington right now on that PGAC course, hes going RAF Regiment, i'm going RM.
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