I have a problem with a publisher's proof-reader; he states, 'The terms 'Q' and 'Q-staff' were invented by Ian Fleming for the James Bond books and did not enter military 'speak' until the 1980s', thus causing a possible copyright issue for me.
Also, Alanbrooke Barracks in Paderborn, Germany is an Amoured Corps barracks rather than a Royal Engrs barracks.
The publishers listen to their proof-reader... I need to prove him wrong.
I was a sapper with 44 Indep Sqn in 1964 stationed in Alanbrooke Barracks and again in 1969 with 5 Fd Sqn. (I can prove that). I am more bothered about the 'Q' issue. Can someone verify for me: QMSI and SQMS in capital letters please so I can copy and paste to the misinformed.
Thanks in advance, Chris.
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He's talking out the back of his head. Do a search and there are literally hundreds of books covering this subject.
QSMI
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartermas ... Instructor
Quartermaster Sergeant Instructor (QMSI) is an appointment held by Warrant Officers Class 2 in the British Army's Small Arms School Corps and Army Physical Training Corps and by some in the Royal Engineers.
It is also the title used within the Territorial Army for the attached regular NCO (usually a Colour Sergeant/Staff Sergeant) responsible for unit administration and stores at sub-unit level (i.e. company/squadron).
CQMS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_Qu ... r_Sergeant
The Company Quartermaster Sergeant (CQMS) in the British Army and Royal Marines is the non-commissioned officer in a company who is in charge of supplies. The CQMS also serves as deputy to the Company Sergeant Major and is the second most senior NCO in the company.
Company Quartermaster Sergeant was once a separate rank. However, by the Second World War it was an appointment of Staff Sergeant (Colour Sergeant in the Royal Marines), and remains so today. In infantry companies, the CQMS is always addressed as "Colour Sergeant".
Squadron Quartermaster Sergeant (SQMS) is the equivalent in the Royal Armoured Corps, Special Air Service, Royal Engineers, Royal Corps of Signals, Army Air Corps, Royal Army Medical Corps, Royal Logistic Corps, and formerly in the Royal Corps of Transport. Battery Quartermaster Sergeant (BQMS) is the equivalent in the Royal Artillery. Squadron Quartermaster Corporal (SQMC) is the equivalent in the Household Cavalry (in which it is an appointment of Staff Corporal).
http://search.bbc.co.uk/search?q=Quarte ... 2Fc1182%2F
Radio 4 Making History - Latest programme
Also a letter and sketch written as Quarter Master in HMS Britannia describing the Battle of Trafalgar, and a signal book and codes from HMS Excellent c.1808.
Also check out :-
http://www.geocities.com/athens/acropol ... ctory.html
for WW1
Quartermaster: The officer in charge of supply and setting camp for a regiment. *
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartermaster
Army
For land armies, the term was first coined in Germany as Quartiermeister and initially denoted a court official with the duty of preparing the monarch's sleeping quarters. In the 17th century, it started to be used in various militaries in the sense of organising supplies.
British Army
In the British Army, the Quartermaster (QM) is the officer in a battalion or regiment responsible for supply. By longstanding tradition, he or she is always commissioned from the ranks (and is usually a former Regimental Sergeant Major) and holds the rank of captain or major.
Some units also have a Technical Quartermaster, who is in charge of technical stores. The Quartermaster is assisted by the Regimental Quartermaster Sergeant (RQMS) and a staff of storemen. The QM, RQMS and storemen are drawn from the regiment or corps in which they work, not from the Royal Logistic Corps, which is responsible for issuing and transporting supplies to them. Units which specialise in supply are known as "supply" units, not "quartermaster" units, and their personnel as "suppliers".
From at least the English Civil War period until 1813, the Quartermaster was the senior NCO in a British cavalry troop (in which context he had nothing to do with supply). In that year, the position was replaced by the new appointment of Troop Sergeant Major, the cavalry adopting commissioned, regimental Quartermasters as described above.
Tell the plonker he's WRONG!
QSMI
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartermas ... Instructor
Quartermaster Sergeant Instructor (QMSI) is an appointment held by Warrant Officers Class 2 in the British Army's Small Arms School Corps and Army Physical Training Corps and by some in the Royal Engineers.
It is also the title used within the Territorial Army for the attached regular NCO (usually a Colour Sergeant/Staff Sergeant) responsible for unit administration and stores at sub-unit level (i.e. company/squadron).
CQMS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_Qu ... r_Sergeant
The Company Quartermaster Sergeant (CQMS) in the British Army and Royal Marines is the non-commissioned officer in a company who is in charge of supplies. The CQMS also serves as deputy to the Company Sergeant Major and is the second most senior NCO in the company.
Company Quartermaster Sergeant was once a separate rank. However, by the Second World War it was an appointment of Staff Sergeant (Colour Sergeant in the Royal Marines), and remains so today. In infantry companies, the CQMS is always addressed as "Colour Sergeant".
Squadron Quartermaster Sergeant (SQMS) is the equivalent in the Royal Armoured Corps, Special Air Service, Royal Engineers, Royal Corps of Signals, Army Air Corps, Royal Army Medical Corps, Royal Logistic Corps, and formerly in the Royal Corps of Transport. Battery Quartermaster Sergeant (BQMS) is the equivalent in the Royal Artillery. Squadron Quartermaster Corporal (SQMC) is the equivalent in the Household Cavalry (in which it is an appointment of Staff Corporal).
http://search.bbc.co.uk/search?q=Quarte ... 2Fc1182%2F
Radio 4 Making History - Latest programme
Also a letter and sketch written as Quarter Master in HMS Britannia describing the Battle of Trafalgar, and a signal book and codes from HMS Excellent c.1808.
Also check out :-
http://www.geocities.com/athens/acropol ... ctory.html
for WW1
Quartermaster: The officer in charge of supply and setting camp for a regiment. *
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartermaster
Army
For land armies, the term was first coined in Germany as Quartiermeister and initially denoted a court official with the duty of preparing the monarch's sleeping quarters. In the 17th century, it started to be used in various militaries in the sense of organising supplies.
British Army
In the British Army, the Quartermaster (QM) is the officer in a battalion or regiment responsible for supply. By longstanding tradition, he or she is always commissioned from the ranks (and is usually a former Regimental Sergeant Major) and holds the rank of captain or major.
Some units also have a Technical Quartermaster, who is in charge of technical stores. The Quartermaster is assisted by the Regimental Quartermaster Sergeant (RQMS) and a staff of storemen. The QM, RQMS and storemen are drawn from the regiment or corps in which they work, not from the Royal Logistic Corps, which is responsible for issuing and transporting supplies to them. Units which specialise in supply are known as "supply" units, not "quartermaster" units, and their personnel as "suppliers".
From at least the English Civil War period until 1813, the Quartermaster was the senior NCO in a British cavalry troop (in which context he had nothing to do with supply). In that year, the position was replaced by the new appointment of Troop Sergeant Major, the cavalry adopting commissioned, regimental Quartermasters as described above.
Tell the plonker he's WRONG!
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Many thanks BritinAfrica. It'll be interesting to hear what he thinks about the 'Plonker' bit. I'm posting this with a copy to the publisher so thanks again mate.
Chris.
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'The Lone Brit on 13'
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My pleasure.chrischance wrote:Many thanks BritinAfrica. It'll be interesting to hear what he thinks about the 'Plonker' bit. I'm posting this with a copy to the publisher so thanks again mate.
Chris.
If I had known you were going to send the moronic cretin my post, I would have thrown in a lot more insults.
